dress codes, what the bar was doing is not legal, end of story, your opinions on the feminization of the gay community, a community long stereotyped for NOT being masculine have no bearing on what is legal and what is not.For two decades, TheWrangler, a popular gay bar catering to a burly clientele, has held down the corner of Logan Street and East 17th Avenue. There are legal things the bar can do…i.e. So in other words, what anybody else has seen is false, but what you have seen is the way it is.Īs for your claims here, your argument is no different than people who said “Women suing this company for not having any women execs are just trying to crash that party.” Ok, what I find interesting is that I relate my impressions, things I’ve seen, and your response is “That may be what you like to think”īut as a response, your reply is “From what I’ve seen” From what I’ve seen, the bear scene is fairly homogeneous: butch, hairy, white, over 40, overweight/stocky/muscled without abs, pacifier-sized nips, etc. They just need to find the masc4masc: That may be what you’d like to think, but it’s more likely that bears wouldn’t even spend half as much time on this as we have. Totally legal and quite necessary sometimes. Some areas set/increase property values to keep/drive certain types of people out. There’s no real way to stop them from keeping undesirables away, especially if they know they’re making money off providing a more exclusive environment to their patrons. And yeah, maybe they should even start a membership fee if necessary.
All the bar has to do is establish a dress code that will block the types they don’t want. A mentally-stable person would’ve been over it by Cam: As I’ve already stated, the bouncer handled the situation poorly. That’s way too much spite and energy to spend on spilled milk. He’s been harassing them for the last year. I think he went there with the intent to start drama/get attention, shame the establishment and teach them a lesson. Lots of insecure fems view the bear scene as anti-fem. The more I see how obsessed Marzano seems with bringing this bar down, the more it seems like he targeted this place with the intent to “feminize” the atmosphere.
The bear scene simply isn’t the place for a drag queen and all his “fabulousness”. I didn’t say fems were a “new phenomenon”. This particular bar just wasn’t the environment for this particular fem, and he needs to stop being a drama erikwm: I understood what you wrote. I’ve never once stated that fems should cease to exist. I prefer to surround myself with guys I have more in common with, and that’s my right. I don’t care whether someone is masculine or feminine. And that’s exactly why the feminization of the gay community is problematic, so thank you for that example. Marzano seems very erikwm: According to you, “truly masculine” gay guys don’t really exist. The whole thing seems very calculated to me. Though when I think about what I know the bear scene to be, it just seems like this drag queen probably did all this on purpose. Establishing and enforcing some type of dress code could’ve probably prevented this. However, private establishments can and SHOULD turn you away if you don’t fit the atmosphere they’re trying to keep, especially a bar/nightclub. Aside from an opportunity to cause unnecessary drama, why would you want to be somewhere where you’re not wanted Cam: Well I agree that the bouncer could’ve gone about this in a better way. Like I said, if this club markets a more butch crowd, too many drag queens and fems can start to turn their crowd away. Back when super clubs like 54 were big, bouncers stood outside and picked who they wanted to come in based on how they looked, what they were wearing, who they were with, etc. Night clubs and bars are privately owned. However, I’m not going to walk on eggshells because you all are hypersensitive. Go back and use whatever Stache99 uses to stalk my comments and see that I’ve NEVER said anything that generally slams all fems.
You guys are just insecure about your effeminacy, so the littlest things send you all into a tizzy. Scribe38: And you’ve opted for taking things personally instead of sticking to topic, as usual.